One Night Stand

topic posted Fri, May 30, 2008 - 5:44 PM by  §t®ngV◊i©e
what constitutes a one night stand in your opinion?

I was just taking a quiz on OKCupid and they ask if you have ever had a one night stand and I had no idea what to put. I have a friend that I've had for years who one night it wandered into sex territory...but is that a one night stand if you've known someone for years and stay friends afterward?

I guess what I'm asking is...what is the determining factor for a one night stand? that you only have sex with someone that one night? or that you randomly hook up with them one night and then aren't involved at all after that?

and while we are talking about them what are your feelings about one night stands? Are they appealing to you? have you had good or bad experiences with them?
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Fri, May 30, 2008 - 5:59 PM
    I guess, technically, a "One-night-stand" is just a single encounter, but I always felt that if you actually knew the person fairly well, it wouldn't really qualify as a classic "one-nighter" For some personal reason, I think a ONS involves bedding a "stranger". I've only had two in my lifetime.. and OK, maybe a 4-night-stand. The disconnect, in both cases, was kind of a bummer. "Wow.. that was great! I'm off." Damn, not even a postcard?
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Fri, May 30, 2008 - 9:42 PM
      I will second Poon's definition.
      I have had them. Too many. I can say that more than half my "number" could be considered ONS's. They have lost their appeal as I get older. I would much rather wander into sex territory with a friend. At least it doesn't feel as weird (well, sometimes it is weird, but you can move on) when it doesn't work out; ostensibly you could talk it out with a friend.
      And sometimes sex is all you need. That's fine. Just not how I roll anymore :)
      • Re: One Night Stand

        Fri, May 30, 2008 - 9:51 PM
        I'd like to add that we should start sending postcards after one nighters!
        No akward phone calls, just a pretty picture of a beach or rest stop on Hwy 66 "Had a nice time. That thing you did with your tongue was really nice/interesting/amazing(constructive criticism would also work here:)). Good luck with your job/alimony/skin condition. Have a great life!"
        • Re: One Night Stand

          Sun, June 1, 2008 - 4:12 PM
          In order to send a postcard you have to know their address. Most of my ONSs happened at festivals. That's a large part of WHY they were one night stands... we lived in different states/countries/hemispheres.
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 9:00 AM
      I'll toss in another vote for Poon's definition.

      I also had a handful of these in my younger days. Two occurred at parties/wedding with people I met, had mad chemistry with, but lived too far away to really have any sort of reasonable relationship (romantic, FWB, etc...). A few more resulted from internet dating gone awry. In most cases i was comfortable with the limited nature of the encounter, but there's one that really bummed me out for a while afterwards. A postcard would have been nice, even with a little constructive criticism as Molly suggested! =)
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Fri, May 30, 2008 - 9:36 PM
    If the test is like the purity test, then technicalities count. But of course, what would qualify as a technicality?

    Wikipedia has this definition available: A one-night stand is originally a single night theatre performance (usually a guest group on tour), and today more commonly also a single sexual encounter between individuals, where at least one of the parties has no immediate intention or expectation of establishing a longer-term sexual or romantic relationship.

    The individuals participating in a one-night stand typically have not known each other long and have had minimal time to get to know each other before engaging in sexual activity. A one-night sexual encounter is not necessarily always a one-night stand; the crucial distinction is the expectation or intention that the relationship will not necessarily be extended beyond the initial sexual encounter. A one-night stand is differentiated from prostitution, as it takes place without direct payment of money and from a casual relationship, which may not initially involve sex and may continue long-term. The term came from the expression one night stand, used for a touring theatrical company who would make a single performance in one locale before moving on to the next engagement, and to a place where such a performance was given.

    A one-night stand can be thought of as an irregular and unplanned sexual encounter between individuals. The participants will usually have little or no contact with one another aside from sex. Thus it is possible to have multiple one-night stands with the same person, provided that there is no regularity to the encounters or planning involved in the encounters. However, where the people involved have a regular sexual relationship without romantic involvement, this is generally considered a casual relationship (also referred to using terms such as "no strings attached"/NSA, "fuck buddies", or "friends with benefits"/FWB), and is generally considered distinct from the one-night stand phenomenon.

    Personally, I count as my one one night stand the night that I went home from a bar with a guy I'd actually dated years before, in high school, but had never had sex with. We had sex that night, and I never called him afterwards, so even though we'd dated previously, I consider the experience to fit the criteria of a one-night-stand.
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 11:40 AM
      it was the dating persona test. I definately thing it would count on a purity test. But with the dating persona test it seemed to be more about how I do things related to dating/sex/relationships.
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Fri, May 30, 2008 - 10:30 PM
    In my mind, a one night stand could also be called a hit and run.
    There wouldn't be prior history nor future history between the two parties.

    Example in my mind is:
    You're in a chat room
    Have a hot conversation with the stranger who sends you a pm
    You agree to meet that night
    No dinner or dancing,flowers or candy
    Just a hotel room
    Sex
    And check out an hour later
    Never to meet or chat again.

    To me one night stands, of this kind, would be very dangerous
    physically, STDally, and emotionally.

    • Re: One Night Stand

      Fri, May 30, 2008 - 10:36 PM
      On the other hand,
      If you are friends/coworkers/etc with someone
      And one night, because the moon is full
      Or your beer mug is full
      You end up having sex
      My brain would consider that "getting carried away"
      Or a "next level in the relationship" or in the worst
      Case a "terrible mistake", but not a one night stand

      Oh well, tis all just my opinion for what it's worth. :)
      • Re: One Night Stand

        Sat, May 31, 2008 - 1:55 AM
        One. Night.

        One Night Stand- Pretty self definitive, IMO.

        A reaaaaaaalllly good one may even bleed over into the next day, as long as it ends before another night has come:) & gone. Breakfast may even be involved.

        Whether past or future contact is in the picture or not, doesn't matter. If more sex &/or dating happens, it becomes something else... a fling, an affair, FWB, maybe even... a Relationship. Stranger things have happened. Even to me.

        Used to do the ONS sometimes, mostly during my exploratory, pre-AIDS youth, & as post-break-up balm. Post AIDS play definitely meant safer sex...
        It's been a long time since, because now, as Molly says, it's just not the way I roll. Been there, done that. No regrets, tho. Even if I was drunk or stoned, I knew just what I was doing. And in spite of running into some asshat, sexist behavior, I had a lot of fun, didn't lie to people, learned things... till I was done
      • Re: One Night Stand

        Sat, May 31, 2008 - 11:46 AM
        that is kind of what I'm thinking.

        I think I could go for a little bit more prior interaction before the sex counting as a one night stand. Like random person who you see occasionally, at work, at their work, at a bar, whatever but don't know.
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 3:16 PM
      Yes those kinds of ONS are dangerous to me emotionally. I have had them, and they feel empty and leaving me longing for what I really want. ONS leave me with a bad taste in my mouth, not that I have had many. During the most recent one I got to hear how wonderful and sexy and great I am. He wanted to see more of me. I said "Thanks but no thanks." I got into my car and cried all the way home. That night all of my dreams were about the man I love. So I guess until I am over those feelings, any sex at this point will be tinged that way.
      • Re: One Night Stand

        Sat, May 31, 2008 - 3:24 PM
        yeah that is another aspect, I have to admit that part of the one night with my friend was tinged with feelings for someone else and I had alot of letting go to do before I could be with someone else. Until then I couldn't really be there with who I was with because my mind, heart and body wear focused on someone who wasn't there.
        • Re: One Night Stand

          Sat, May 31, 2008 - 9:48 PM
          I think there can be, under the right circumstances, a certain purity to one-time sex that can be fine, & very freeing. For many women of my generation (I'm 49) it was also about claiming our power... altho' of course, it's never quite that simple, is it? But yeah, I was there... & I inhaled, too, lol. And a lot of it was great.

          There may be times in life (as there once were for me) when that kind of exploration can be interesting, & even just plain fun. It can fill a need, as long as we're realistic. Yes, it has it's risks, especially for women. But if we know that, own our choices, & do what we can to minimize the dangers... hey, skiing is risky, too. Not all of us want to be married, & that can mean periods of being uncoupled.
          At this juncture of my life, I want & need more connection w/ sex. But that wasn't always true... & I really have no silly shame about that. It didn't mean I had no feeling, or ever forgot I was interacting w/ actual human beings...

          When a brief encounter doesn't work, is when someone doesn't feel OK about it, which yes, is sometimes impossible to know till afterwards. As some of you have illustrated, & as I know first hand, having a one-nighter is usually NOT the best idea when we're feeling extra vulnerable. But yup, sometimes we may not realize just how raw we feel, until we go there... *sigh*
          Healing from a mistake happens a lot faster, if we don't beat ourselves up too badly, just because sex was involved. And if we've inadvertently used someone who's really into us, than it's only right to be straight w/ that person, instead of just avoiding them like a coward.

          If no insult is added to injury, & general self-esteem is alright, it's easier to handle a risk that didn't work out. There have been a few times I've found I wanted more, but he found he didn't, or I was flat-out manipulated... but mostly, that wasn't the case. When it did happen, I dealt w/ it like a big girl, acknowledging sadness or anger, & moved on.
          Sometimes, a great opportunity for sex w/ someone I wanted no more from, briefly arose. A few times w/ strangers, other times w/ acquaintances, even friends. And sometimes that was just right, for who I was then.

          Lying or misleading someone is disrespectful, & happens way too often. If people didn't think sex in itself was dirty somehow, than I believe that would happen less often. Not demonizing sex, would make it easier to treat anyone that's kind enough to share some w/ us, w/ more consideration. Same goes for practicing safer sex, & taking steps to avoid pregnancy. Even if we're not in love, or in a relationship. Why do so many people automatically equate a one-time thing w/ something sleazy? I don't get it, unless there is dysfunctional behavior, & abuse of self or others...

          I do think it's sad, if that's the ONLY way a person can sexually relate... it's a pretty emotionally limited place to get stuck in long term. But geez... assuming anyone who has had, or is having some one night stands. suffers from pathetically low self-esteem, Mario? Anyone who knows me knows that's laughable. Sure I've made some mistakes, & have long since moved on, but it takes confidence to claim one's choices & life, even if they're not for everyone.

  • Heart on a Meat-hook Pushed by a Butcher

    Sat, May 31, 2008 - 2:16 AM
    One Night Stand is self-explanatory. That's about as long as you can stand each other because one of you was harboring uncertainty to begin with. Of course this says nothing about two people who may sleep with each other one night and for whatever reason outside of themselves may never do so again. But, a "one-night-stand" usually implies something fraught with sex-only as its motivation. One or the other got their licks and wanted to keep going. Such events are usually negative, for the one who didn't really care, lives with fear, now realized that it is probably their turn. As for the other, a bit of the soul is pulled like liver by a sharp knife and the ache haunts them like a choice made in haste and lacking discipline.
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Sat, May 31, 2008 - 9:01 AM
    i actually had to stop and really think hard about what i really believe about this topic. i started out by thinking, "hey, a ONS is cool, i've done that..." but then i stopped and thought back, and really i haven't...

    my first started out as a one night stand that extended into a week of fun because i was housesitting for a friend, but then tapered off because we both had roommates and weren't interested in continuing a relationship - exactly what i was looking for at the time, fun and low-drama. a few times i've slept with friends as a once-only deal, and i *might* call those one night stands, but friendship continued after the experience in those cases. a couple of times, something has started as a ONS and turned into a relationship...of varying durations from a couple of months to one very serious relationship of two years.

    i've found as i get older that i have *no* interest in sex without a connection. i'm not at all averse to sex for the sake of sex, but my attraction to someone is based entirely on a mental or emotional connection with them. i don't have to *love* someone to be into having sex wih them, but i do have to *like* them, and for me that doesn't happen *just* because i like the way they look. for me, it's a statement of value: i like X about you, whether that's the conversation we've had, the way i feel when i'm with you, or the fact that i appreciate our friendship...and in those cases, if i value someone enough to go there with them, it means i want to keep them in my life, although not necessarily in a sexual fashion.

    i don't think it's wrong in any way to have one night with no intention of continuing anything. it's kind of culturally romanticized, and i can see how the idea is slightly attractive. but something in my head just clicks off at the thought of having sex with someone i know i'm never going to see again, like maybe i'm not valuing *myself* highly enough? interesting thought (digging into my brain pre-caffeine...) that's completely not saying anything about anyone else who finds enjoyment in a ONS, as i don't believe that *everyone* or even *anyone* SHOULD feel the same way i do...so i guess my answer is, i'm divided on the topic :-)
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 11:54 AM
      I think I have a deep down belief that having sex with someone creates a connection with them. Like an energy connection, and I don't want that with someone I don't trust or like enough to have an emotional connection too. It makes me feel icky and vulnerable.

      I don't think it's wrong for anyone else it just doesn't feel good to me.
      • Re: One Night Stand

        Sat, May 31, 2008 - 12:30 PM
        that makes a lot of sense to me, too. i may trust people with that connection too quickly, but it still feels to me like if it's worth making in the first place, it's worth maintaining in whatever sense...i guess i learned after a while that not everyone wanted to continue a connection that was created, and to me, that does feel icky. it's strange because i don't see it as some big woo-woo connection that has to be all serious & stuff, but it does mean *something*...i just don't like it to mean *nothing* if that makes sense.
        • Re: One Night Stand

          Sat, May 31, 2008 - 3:20 PM
          totally makes sense to me, and it does make me feel icky when they don't want to continue a connection in some way. or when who and how they are means I don't want to maintain a connection with them. Yeah actually that makes me much sadder. Though I really don't have that big of a pool of people to observe my reactions with in recent years or ever now that I think about it. So maybe it's more specific and not so much a pattern.
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Sat, May 31, 2008 - 10:15 AM
    I have had one night stands, sometimes it was intentional. For example, I hadn't had sex in a LONG time and someone attractive, charming and sexy showed up at just the right time. And it was no narm no foul, just fun. Or in my younger years I would get disappointed that they didn't turn into anything else.
    I know that I prefer sex with an emotional component or connection for the most part. But sometimes chemistry is chemistry and I don't rule it out.
    • Life is a lesson not a playground.

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 2:57 PM
      Pie, I agree with you, but sex is always so much more than chemistry. I've had those romps, but they were hurtful in the end as when I had one over the course of a three day period and we both had thought or at least understood the play, rather than serious factor and still, she fell in love with me or at least when it was agreed that we would meet again, she never showed and I ended up calling the police to see if she was OK. My cousin shocked me the other day, when he said you should marry someone you are willing to have sex with. He is not religious in the least, but what it told my little heart felt true. Sex is the first attempt to love someone and loving someone also means loving oneself. If you care for the feelings of another person, you also care for your own.

      Pie this is not to put you down. I am talking for myself. Since my cousin said that, I've been really thinking about my "needs" and the women I might otherwise engage. Sex immediately says a lot about the relationship. It speaks the truth. I like to think that I can stave off something so intimate as sex just to find out what I otherwise knew. Not having done so speaks of my lack of discipline. I want to think that I can resist temptations that have no chance of turning into beautiful, loving relationships. Like you, I am getting old enough to see the shallow hold that chemistry has. I want to marry one of those past lovers, who after making love to them brought me immediately to truth. To love someone is an art. To see that as you make the effort, true beauty is imparted. It emanates from the bond, the promise, the hope, the effort and to deny all the distractions that come at it as tests reinforce my perception of our purpose on this earth, which is not to party but to learn.

      Although these are high and mighty words, I hope to fill the shoes, I have bought with them. I walk toward you and bow. Thank you for the inspiration.
      • Re: Life is a lesson not a playground.

        Sat, May 31, 2008 - 10:45 PM
        Mario,

        Don't get me wrong, I am not taking sex lightly at all, never have. Even when I was pretty young and what some would call promiscuous. I took it too seriously, I pretty much fell in love with everyone I had sex with or at least most of them. Or there was always a hope that they would fall in love with me. I wanted to be chosen so badly.

        I believe each person we have been with leaves an imprint or energy with you so being careful about who you share your body with is imperative to me. As I am pretty sensitive. But I guess sometimes my body just gets all pragmatic and it needs what it needs. And thankfully when the one night stands happen if they happen it is clear that both parties know exactly what it is and what is means and what it doesn't and no one gets hurt.

        I might just be doing tired rambling or reiterating what I already said. But sex is a serious thing for me, it is sacred and magical.
  • Re: One Night Stand

    Sat, May 31, 2008 - 11:42 PM
    I'm on a short leash tonight, so I may have to do this in installments . . . ;o)

    There have been very few incidents where I only had limited (genital-based) sexual contact with someone, and each one was different from the other. The first time, I believe I was 16 or so, and was with a boy I had been "dating" for a month or so (meaning, at that age, holding hands and kissing, but exclusively) - Oh, crap! I'm remembering that when I lost my virginity it was, basically, a one-night stand. I guess I'd prefer to forget it. But, anyway, we were interrupted, and never really had enough interest in the whole thing to try it again after that. I was way too you to do what I was doing, emotionally and physically, without question, but you know *everything* when you're that old, right? Whatever. :oP

    When I was 23, I had a deeply emotionally and affectionately intimate relationship with a lovely soul, yet she and I weren't really easily able to spend time *alone* together. After about two months of seeing one another (and having other primary relationships), we were able to make love together one time, and it was *magical* - a beautiful, shining jewel to take out of my pocket every once in a while to revel in its beauty. Our lives were such that we just couldn't maintain the relationship, but I treasure the experience and regret nothing about it - except for not being more adventurous, or asking more questions!!! I guess I didn't assume it would be our only time together . . . I still remember the feel of her body under my hands, under my lips and tongue, and I miss her. We parted sweetly. If ever there was to be a one time thing in my future, I would be so delighted if I came out of it feeling the same way, but I don't see how it is possible. Such a lovely thing to have experienced.

    Between husband number 1 and husband number 2, I though I should "claim" my sexuality, like all big girls do, right? Camping at Country Fair www.oregoncountryfair.org/index.php , something akin to a Rainbow Gathering and Burning man, but with commerce and, now, no obvious drug or alcohol usage. I met up with friends of friends; friends of people that I had lost contact with during my 9 year relationship that had ended (poorly, at that). One man, in particular, was quite fetching - charming, intelligent, charismatic, English (yes, I have to admit that accent points count sometimes), flirtatious toward me (dressed in bellydance garb, as I was), and handsome, and I thought to myself that he would be a great candidate for my "experiment" in being liberated. Hell, my old friends liked him, blah, blah, blah, so. The sex - not so great. His cock was kind of wedge-shaped, or so my body told me. Small at the top, but it got bigger and bigger and BIGGER, until it was *completely* uncomfortable!!! It was over pretty quickly (which was fine, frankly), and I was left with the thoughts of, "Who the fuck *IS* this, really?" And then, "Oh, wait a minute - why didn't he even bother to engage in foreplay?!?" Did I *tell* you I was coming from a crappy marriage??? At any rate, the next day, when I got home and was trying to settle back into reality, he called and insisted that we go out. I wanted to give him another chance; to "legitimize" my experience, and help myself feel better about it. He was very polite and attentive, but I could see that the bartender was *very* comfortable with him; bantered quite a bit with him, but I was just another person on his arm, from the perspective of the bartender. Does that make sense? Like I was just "next"; an accessory that gets this guy's dick wet. Notes taken. At any rate, at the end of the evening, at my place, feeling like I have a handle on things, and can maybe just enjoy a physical encounter for what it is, it happens again, and is every bit as lame and not right as the time previously. Once he's done, I sent him on his way. He called again the next day, and said that he was actually dating someone, but that he found me *so* appealing. I thanked him, and STRONGLY encouraged him to stay with his other "girlfriend"; stroked his ego, which is disingenuous, but I knew that things would be easier that way, publicly and in the future. And I felt completely empty. Less than empty. Not his fault, all mine. Good for me to know that I'm not wired that way, and how completely unfulfilling sex without connection is, for me. If I don't know or trust you enough to relax and feel safe to be vulnerable, I have no good reason to have sex with you. Probably enough for now. :o) Hugs ~ Misha

    Boy, sorry for being so verbose! This may belong more in the TMI tribe . . . ;o)
    • Re: One Night Stand

      Sun, June 1, 2008 - 8:14 AM
      a wedge. eep.

      It must be early but that was the first time I had ever heard of that. And I have seen a lot of um, penis's.

      I understand about sometimes having an encounter almost as if it is an experiment to see how it will be. Or to have the last person you were with not be the person who broke your heart.