Boys vs. Girls

topic posted Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:31 PM by  offlineSprout
Browsing around something came to my mind.
I've seen Beautiful girls and average to (ahem) less than average guys.
I don't see many Beautiful guys with less than average girls.
Is it some sort of weird natural selection?

Any thoughts?
posted by:
Sprout
Missouri
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:38 PM
    browsing around where?
    • Re: Boys vs. Girls

      Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:44 PM
      Dating sites :)
      And other places......
      I get no love on the interweb. Aside from that Poly stalker that is very sweet, but not so good long run............
      • Re: Boys vs. Girls

        Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:18 PM
        poly stalker? i must've missed something...
        anyhow, yeah, it's tough finding love. here (web) & elsewhere.


        i dunno. i'm not a good judge of what is or isn't a beautiful guy, but i see plenty of dudes w/average-looking women. like someone else mentioned, it's possible that what you're seeing has at least partly to do w/where you're looking.

        yeah, men are superficial. women are too. to differing degrees maybe, but we're all people. people are people, & they like what they like.
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Thu, May 8, 2008 - 9:49 PM
    It's probably called Target/ Segment Marketing.
    Assumption more guys use dating sites and we're all average, but by using THAT SITE Mr. Average can get the beautiful girls
    IMHO :)
    • Re: Boys vs. Girls

      Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:04 PM
      Honey-girl, "they" say we're supposed to marry ugly, if we want it to stick . . . ;o)

      I think women are less superficial than men, generally, but I'm glad that the men that adore me aren't, clearly, *completely* superficial! The right kind of woman values substance over flash, in my opinion. Truth is, I take 3+ minutes in the bathroom getting ready in the morning (yes, sweet ones, I know it shows), and I'd feel kinda weird if my lover took much longer. Then again, I don't really use the mirror much, except to see what's glaringly wrong and fix it, so, again, maybe I'm weird. No worries. At least I know that *beautiful*, amazing, substantial men, like S. Archer, The Dark Knight, Artemis, Ron, ?Jin?, T.E.L., etc., would adore me as I am. That's what matters. :o) Hugs and Blessings!
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 1:11 AM
    Isn't this because women are less visual?
    • Re: Boys vs. Girls

      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:47 AM
      eahhhh....no. that's a total stereotype. i'm a woman, and i'm highly visual. it also has very little to do with what kind of guys i'm with and whether they're "hot" or not. i'm on the homely side of average, and i've been with hot and not-so-hot guys.

      i don't know if one can generalize about whether guys or girls are more likely to use looks as a qualifier on a relationship...but i do know that the not-so-hot ones have treated me a whole heck of a lot better than the hot ones.
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:40 AM
    hmm I can think of a few things that fit into this.

    I think there is still a strong cultural bias towards women need to be attractive to attract and men need to have money or attitude or stuff in order to attract. There is pressure on women to be pretty and pressure on men to be successful.

    and a by product of the pressure on women to be attractive is that they are alot more aware of how to make themselves look good. If you take an average woman and an average guy and they both take pictures for okcupid she is alot more likely to do her hair and makeup and do a certain pose and take 100 pictures looking for one that looks good...and the guy is more likely to just put up that picture his sister took of him at that bbq where he was in his sweats(o: or a picture of him wear you can't see him hardly because he was trying to show that he was out on a boat or in his car/truck or he will take a picture...One picture just to put it up there. So not only do guys get less pressure to be pretty they also have less known how to make what they have look it's best.

    I also think there is alot more for women to do, like a woman can get all fancied up, hair/makeup/clothes/pushupbra and a guy can't do nearly as much of that, or if he does women think he's not manly.
  • Just some thoughts

    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 4:31 PM
    I think this also may depend upon how you define "beautiful" men. I bet I wouldn't pick out the same ones you would.
    And SV is right, you don't typically see American men getting all dolled up the way women do but when a man IS good at getting all dolled up and still looking masculine women flock to him in droves and he can have his pick. Also, a man who fusses with his appearance is often much more conscious of other people's appearances. And, as another idea, many drop dead gorgeous women date men who are capable of seeing them as a person, regardless of what he may look like, because they are sick of being seen as the beautiful ditz (there is a tendency in our culture to assume model-beautiful women are unintelligent and uncomplex) while beautiful men don't have as much of a stereotype to fight (other, perhaps, than being gay which can be fought simply by being with a female) and may not feel as much of a need to seek out somebody who will see beyond said stereotypes and so can focus more on physical beauty.
    • Re: Just some thoughts

      Sat, May 10, 2008 - 4:09 AM
      "men who are capable of seeing them as a person, regardless of what he may look like,"

      someone who sees me for who i am? thats just hot, pure an simple.
    • Re: Just some thoughts

      Sat, May 10, 2008 - 12:06 PM
      I have to admit, I think I have a stereotype/block against guys who are too gorgeous in the traditional sense. If I get to know them then it's void of course (except for the parts that do happen to fit). But maybe most women don't have that block?

      I had a guy in my mediation training that was simply too pretty to be true. He worked at a clothing store and looked like he would be on one of those giant posters they have in there of the model guys. and he was straight. (I have begun to look around to see if possibly this next generation is alot more "meterosexual" or whatever you want to call it where the boys openly care about their hair and clothes and seem to feel the pressure to be pretty) and I just have this reaction to that like I imagine people have to the gorgeous blond she she trips their stereotype. (the dumb blond stereotype is one I don't have at all interestingly enough) But getting to know him and he of course is not just a pretty boy with nothing underneath, he's working on his bachelors, he's in the training so he can volunteer for the mediation center, he's working toward going into law enforcement...he's a real person. But I find that I have to push through this block I have to get there. I do make myself but it's still there and I am not sure why. Though in all honesty I do think it has something to do with not feeling comfortable finding someone very pretty when I don't think they will find me so. There is more though I'm sure that is at the core.
      • Re: Just some thoughts

        Sat, May 10, 2008 - 12:17 PM
        I find the same thing happening to me at first, until I shift my mind to the idea that this person is not going to be sexually attracted to me because they're way too pretty. As long as I'm still in the receptive female mindset, I'm nervous. Once I've gotten past that, I can relax, and be more myself around them. I can even flirt more freely, knowing that nothing's expected to come of it.
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Sat, May 10, 2008 - 3:08 PM
    This song by Joe Jackson really sums up the entire situation to me:

    www.youtube.com/watch
    • Re: Boys vs. Girls

      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 7:58 AM
      A clip of the same song sung by a "good looking" guy ;-)

      www.youtube.com/watch
      • Re: Boys vs. Girls

        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:39 AM
        <A clip of the same song sung by a "good looking" guy ;-) >

        Who says women are less superficial? hehehe!
        • Re: Boys vs. Girls

          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 11:10 AM
          >>>Who says women are less superficial? hehehe!<<<

          I think all of us like a little eye candy now and then! ;-)

          On a side note, I think this post is really addressing the difference between girls vs. women and boys vs. men, rather than girls vs. boys. Once we get to a certain point of maturity, we no longer look for partners based solely on their looks, or what "they" can do for us - financially, image wise, etc. We start to look more at the person they are, whether they'd make a good husband/wife, girlfriend/boyfriend, father/mother, based on a strong understanding of who we ourselves are.

          It's very true, however, that some people never mature to this point.
  • Re: Boys vs. Girls

    Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:58 AM
    I watched something once about a study that was done where a bunch of women were shown pictures of beautiful men and average men, and asked whether they were marriage type. The result was that women view beautiful men as not the marriage type, and average men as the marriage type, and it was probed further to discover that women believe that beautiful men will stray in marriage, and average men likely would not. There ya go.

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