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I have wondered this for years and would like some male opinions. Why is it that some men think that introducing you to their junk first is going to make you want to be with them?
I got a friend request from someone who will be henceforth called BONERMAN. I have not interacted with this person ever before and there he "pops" up with his profile picture of his erect penis in a pair of sweat pants.
Why? And does this work on most women and I am just either a prude or weird? I like some verbal foreplay before being introduced to mister happy, so I don't get it. I have a few thoughts regarding this you can agree or disagree with them.
1. left over from being 12 and wanting to do something naughty for shock value.
2. is this a phenomena like when guys yell out the window of their cars "hey hot stuff, sit on my face!"?
3. A way to solicit anonymous sex or a way to say this is what I am here for?
4. Men that do this really think that their junk is as much of a turn on to them in an anonymous photo as a disembodied photo of a womans parts is to them?
Needless to say I friended him and am going to work that pole later today. ha ha ha Not. So what is it? This part of the mans psyche has always baffled me, after only putting one Craiglist ad in I received maybe a dozen random dick pictures in various stages of arousal or non arousal. Does size matter more to men than it does to women?
Thanks for your thoughtful enlightening responses in advance. I am totally curious about women that like this sort of approach too. :)
I got a friend request from someone who will be henceforth called BONERMAN. I have not interacted with this person ever before and there he "pops" up with his profile picture of his erect penis in a pair of sweat pants.
Why? And does this work on most women and I am just either a prude or weird? I like some verbal foreplay before being introduced to mister happy, so I don't get it. I have a few thoughts regarding this you can agree or disagree with them.
1. left over from being 12 and wanting to do something naughty for shock value.
2. is this a phenomena like when guys yell out the window of their cars "hey hot stuff, sit on my face!"?
3. A way to solicit anonymous sex or a way to say this is what I am here for?
4. Men that do this really think that their junk is as much of a turn on to them in an anonymous photo as a disembodied photo of a womans parts is to them?
Needless to say I friended him and am going to work that pole later today. ha ha ha Not. So what is it? This part of the mans psyche has always baffled me, after only putting one Craiglist ad in I received maybe a dozen random dick pictures in various stages of arousal or non arousal. Does size matter more to men than it does to women?
Thanks for your thoughtful enlightening responses in advance. I am totally curious about women that like this sort of approach too. :)
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Re: Leading with the boner.
Sat, September 26, 2009 - 10:15 AM>"Needless to say I friended him and am going to work that pole later today. ha ha ha Not. So what is it?"
lmao
I think you hit it with #1 and 2
1. left over from being 12 and wanting to do something naughty for shock value.
2. a phenomena like when guys yell out the window of their cars "hey hot stuff, sit on my face!"? -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 10:22 AMAnd what is the percentage rate of times this approach works as opposed to times they get shot down? Or is the whole idea that it won't work and will just illicit a response?
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 11:45 AMI have often wondered that myself as I am hissed at and subject to cat calling. I even get the really-not-sexy undressing me with their eyes "Hola, senorita...." like I'm in some soap opera about prostitutes. It must work sometimes or else all these guys just figure they have nothing to lose, including their pride. Yuck.
I used to ride my bike through 'the hood', which in my hometown is a laughable term. The older black men would yell at me "Yo, redbone!" all the time. I finally pulled my bike over and retorted: "Can't a sister get some respect up in here?" I could tell they felt bad and they apologized, but they soon started yelling at me "Hey, lotto!", meaning 'mulatto'. They didn't seem like bad guys, I guess they just thought it was acceptable to call me names.
It takes a special type of seductor to introduce the junk properly in the beginning. I only know a few men who have gotten to me right away like that. I know what you mean about CL too. Ick.
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 4:59 PMd. all of the above
i figure any guy who thinks that the best part of him is his boner, and that it is in any way socially acceptable to lead with your private parts in a forum like tribe, is an idiot without the ability to distinguish what is, and isn't, socially appropriate.
although there are always exceptions, but they would only happen when the context already gave some implicit consent for xx-rated pictures, such as being on an adult site. in that case, i'd cut more slack. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 5:54 PMI didn't scold him I just didn't accept his friend invite. But in the past I have asked men point blank if that EVER worked. lol -
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Sun, September 27, 2009 - 1:28 PMAs a man I have no clue what so ever the mentality of a man who thinks the very first thing he needs to get out there is his package. I guess maybe that would work on certain sites on the Net, as well as certain Tribes here. Me personally, I have got to know you pretty well and feel comfortable enough with you before I even consider showing more of me.
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 6:42 AMIt may actually be a logical extension of the fact that many men get turned on by the sight of parts of the female body (I do myself, particularly when they are in the same bed as I am). So, therefore, women should also be turned on by a cock shot. In a kind of quirky way, it's actually kind of egalitarian, like "women are just as much ruled by their libidos as men are". And maybe they are just hoping for equally revealing pictures in exchange, rather than expecting anything more substantial, and just showing that they are willing to go as far as they want you to go in terms of revealing pictures. So maybe it's not really as insulting as it may seem.
It seems a little exhibitionistic to me, though, at the least. I would not be inclined to friend a woman who sent me pictures of her more prominent sexual attributes with no other reason to keep in contact.
I might keep the pictures, though.
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 7:52 AMI suspect there are as many motivations for sending unsolicited photos of one's genitals to women one doesn't know as there are men who do it. To me it's always seemed like the online equivalent to fondling oneself on the bus - sort of furtive, desperate and masochistic. Overall, it generally seems to be just as much or more about power/attention as sex. On the other hand, in all-male sexual cultures it's very common to fixate on penises too so clearly focusing on disembodied boy parts is part of male sexual culture in a way it's not part of female sexual culture. The irony of this is that studies have shown that women actually watch body parts more than men do when watching porn (men focus on the face more, women on the genitals) and that women are generally turned on by a much wider variety o f sexual images. (And that there are many men pay prostitutes as much for the companionship and attention as for the sex.)
Papa - There probably are some men/boys so naive to real female sexuality and women in general, as well as social mores, that they think as you suggest, or whose only exposure to women is through porn (pun incidental but I'm leaving it! ;-) One can easily explain sending strange people genital shots if one considers they're coming from a guy with no female friends, no real interest in women as people and the mistaken idea that real world sex is the same as porn (or so little real world experience with consensual, non-paid sexual or emotional sharing that they confuse porn with real world sex and don't understand it's simulation/acting for the camera/contrived). I suspect quite a few people who do this kind of thing in inappropriate places are masochists who actually welcome and enjoy being told they're creepy and disgusting - it's a form of power, a distorted form of power but it's about power and being noticed none the less.
Personally, I tend to find that most snapshots of people's junk or nudie pix are kinda aesthetically gross like the candid shots in Hustler used to be - bad lighting that highlights bad skin and imperfections, bad hair and makeup, etc. Not that I'm all about airbrushing out realness, there's just no need to send people a genital mug shot that basically screams "I'm a convicted sex offender who exposes myself to children too". I mean, I guess people put up photos of themselves looking really ugly and badly dressed and hope for dates from super hot people too but why should anyone else care about or want your body if you clearly don't?
On another note, a lot of men who watch a lot of porn and don't have real world relationships with women have a very distorted perception of how hot they actually are and how possible it is for ugly, boorish men to get free, no-strings sex with young nymphets and beautiful women who are hot for their penis even though they're short, fat and hairy like Ron Jeremy (who is in the video to appeal to men and not women in the first place). Not that short, hairy and round men can't be sexy in their own right as people, they're just not the usual "sexy male object" for women if we're talking purely physical aesthetics. -
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:45 PMI don't think Ron Jeremy works for anyone. -
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 6:19 AMOh, I highly suspect Ron Jeremy works for someone - the world is full of divergent tastes (and hairy men were considered virile and sexy back in the first heyday of porn in the 70s when he first, ahem, rose to prominence...and when women and bush were considered sexier than - or at least as sexy as - "barely legal" and shaved). Apart from his talents, his enduring appeal seems to be that he's a sort of everyman that gives other men hope or the ability to imagine themselves in his position. -
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 7:10 AMGiven he really didn't start hitting the shelves till the 80's <first film 1979> the hairy thing likely isn't the major draw. More likely the everyman thing. Unlikely as it may sound he is no dummy <holds a Master's in Special Ed and a valid California Teaching license> . In an interview I read on him a few years ago he stated that he very early started to direct films so that he had the choice of the hottest stars in them. This has also parlayed into likely a longer career that would have been the norm for a male star. The 10 in personality he is dragging around likely helps his porn status as well.
He is also pretty amusing IRL, He came up to Seattle to open a friend's Tattoo shop and we got a chance to kick back and bullshit with him for a while.
Here is his IMDB
www.imdb.com/name/nm0000465/bio
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 7:29 AMJSin - Thanks for the porn history correction and, yes, his success has to do with his intelligence behind the scenes as much as to do with his physical assets and everyman appeal. I still suspect that he wouldn't have been quite as successful if he hadn't gotten into porn while fur was still acceptable though (I don't think that being furry really adds to his appeal, it just wasn't quite as much a niche aesthetic as it's become these days). -
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:17 PMI think it's the "if he can get that girl then I can picture it" thing men are doing. Plus somewhere I saw interviews with a bunch of female porn stars and they all talked about how they liked working with him because he was respectful and funny and treated them well, apparently not necessarily normal for alot of the other porn guys.
My favorite thing about him is that he is so willing to make fun of and laugh at himself. I'm not even remotely attracted to him sexually but I can picture hanging out with him and cracking up. I can't say that about anyone else in porn.
as for the original question I have always thought it was a combo of the shock thing doing it for them and the "if I would like to see naked girl bits in my inbox them that must be something they'd like too, even if they won't admit it" and definitely too much porn. I just don't get how they don't get how inappropriate it is. Some do and they are doing it for that reason, but some genuinely seem confused and startled when I've asked them why they would do that. -
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Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:05 AMI think everyone has made excellent, well thought out and some hilarious points.
I do see where a lot of the time we think because it turns us on it must turn someone else one. And the idea of shock value too.
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Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:03 PMI have nothing new to add to these fine & hilarious posts. Except, oh, Queenie, no doubt you would have made some fine observations on one of our all-time best AASWA threads- the infamous "Strangecock" discussion.
I learned long ago to make extremely goofy faces at men who would yell sexual stuff in the street. Snaps 'em right out of the objectification fantasy- at least for the moment. -
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Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:27 PMexcellent idea I need to get a stock photo of me making a silly face that will serve as my response. -
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Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:44 PMyeah, I knew you'd take to that one, lol. Making the face as ugly as possible is good. One of my best: stick out the lower jaw w/ the teeth showing, while curling in the upper lip. Combine w/ extremely worried brow knit & loud cackle. Finger waggling w/ thumbs in the ear & crossed eyes is good too.
In extreme circumstances, a little chicken-like arm flap w/ some cawing works.They get reaaaaally confused, & sometimes laugh.
Doesn't work well on the 'net though.
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Thu, October 1, 2009 - 9:25 PMI was thinking about doing a search to dig up strangcock! er the song of course. -
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Sat, October 3, 2009 - 2:56 PMSV that poem was too funny
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Sat, October 3, 2009 - 3:56 PMFMM, a goofy face with a head shaking "oh, uh-uuuuh! No, you didn't!" works really well for me. "Ain't nothin for you over here!" works really well too. I am a big promoter of public shaming when appropriate. Back home I can just say "Do you know who my brother is?" If they know, they step off.
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:04 PMLOL... that doesn't surprise me at all Jsin - lots of seriously kinky educators out there, but the majority are on the down low, so to speak...
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Mon, October 5, 2009 - 8:31 PMfunny. Though a shot of an exceptionally pretty pussy might be appetizing, I hardly doubt it would "reel me in" to friend them, by itself. More likely, I'd suspect some dude was behind it. lol -
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Thu, October 8, 2009 - 2:35 PMLOL, quel! Shoulda known you'd already be doing some variation of the "hey dude, human being here" humor solution.
I am gleefully responsible for the "Strangecock" poem set to "People Are Strange" by the Doors. *bows* -
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Thu, October 8, 2009 - 2:40 PMOh- correction- I did that on ANOTHER strangecock thread, which I think was on the Ask a Sexy man tribe. Cowboy & SV did the awesome versions on this one... OMG it was fun seeing that again.
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Thu, October 1, 2009 - 2:18 AMi completely dig watching my guy jack off. but others, no. and randomly, no. -
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Sun, October 4, 2009 - 5:58 PM>"i completely dig watching my guy jack off. but others, no. and randomly, no. "
Ah hahahaha. Funny how that is, huh?
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