i often hear about this from women, that a confident woman seems to intimidate men, so how about the reverse? Does a confident man intimidate YOU? if so this might explain why i when i was single, mind you, and when im feeling supremely confident in myself) have misread signals from women in the past, yet when in a relattionship and feeling comfortable with my self i can pick up on it.
SO..... feedback anyone?
SO..... feedback anyone?
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 7:30 AMNo, I find a confident man most entertaining, and comfortable to be around. However, a confident man who doesn't listen, doesn't pay attention, borders on the arrogant, and I find that most annoying. Won't give an arrogant man the time of day. Hmm, it's a very fine distinction, though, I wonder what the tipping point is in making that judgement one way or another? -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 8:48 PMFunny, but to me I find the fine line being drawn between underconfidence and overconfidence.
I view a confident man as stoic - he knows his place in the world, what he's capable of, what his limits are, and doesn't have anything to prove to anyone else. He is most comfortable around others who are both confident and self-sufficient as well. He can be relied on, but not taken advantage of. He is quietly content with himself, and doesn't find the need the world to revolve around him.
Egotistical, self-centered men might exude confidence, but whether it's a result of narcissism or is a facade used to hide feelings of inadequacy, insecurity or unworthiness isn't clearly evident until the person is known better (Any takers? :-). These are the guys who always seem to be trying to prove their manhood, they tend work hard at remaining the focus of the conversation, try to control every situation they're in, always seems to need to have their way. They're also very quick to cut down others, and can be insolent, pushy and brass. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 11:17 AM"I view a confident man as stoic - he knows his place in the world, what he's capable of, what his limits are, and doesn't have anything to prove to anyone else... He can be relied on, but not taken advantage of. He is quietly content with himself, and doesn't find the need the world to revolve around him. "
ok, I just envisioned Atticus Finch/Gregory Peck from To Kill a Mockingbird. hee. am I the only one who did that? :) -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 11:32 AMI was thinking more of my brother, a previous boss I had, and a big, brawny ironworker I dated for several years, but Atticus Finch works too!
As does Clint Eastwood, back in the day...
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 2:40 PMdefinitely an Atticus Finch Moment. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 1:19 AMOoooh... Gregory Peck... yumm. Especially as Atticus Finch.
I'm coming in late & will echo the other ladies. Confidence -yes. Arrogance- no.
I've found when a man isn't confident, he seems uncomfortable w/ my confidence. It's tiresome... I prefer equals.
Confidence doesn't have to be stoic to me- I actually like expressive guys better. But empty boasting, or an inability to say "I don't know" or to listen"... that's not very confident. Confidence means a certain openness to experiencing the world, & other people. It means a generosity of spirit is more possible, a tolerant attitude. & not being so easily threatened.
All of which are great qualities in a person... & a lover.
I'm also attracted to men who are open & friendly, happily flirty... but not aggressively pushy. I can make up my own mind, thank you... It is true that if someone's on the prowl too hard, it can paradoxically be off-putting. I've never understood why more men (& some women) don't get the idea that not pushing too hard, will get usually them laid more often. If he's up for nailing anything that moves, it shows. And it's not flattering. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 1:37 PMtotally. I want someone who can express interest clearly...without being pushy. My natural tendency in all situations but even more so in romance is to dig in my heals or go in the opposite direction when pushed.
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 8:45 AMsince i'm a confident woman, i am also attracted to confident men. a man who carries himself well and has a certain level of confidence and strength is very attractive and not in the least intimidating. now an arrogant man, or a man who pushes his weight around and treats others badly, thinking he's acting confident when in reality he's just being an oaf is neither attractive nor intimidating - just annoying. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 1:41 PMexactly
confidence doesn't intimate me. I have met men who were delighted by that, or disturbed by it, or some odd combination of both. Confidence is one of those things that's important to being attractive...but not enough on it's own. A man could be very confident in alot of ways and still not be my thing. Maybe that's due to the same reason why it doesn't intimidate me. It isn't a mystical magical thing to me. I think sometimes people who don't feel very confident do imagine confidence is some mystical thing, or is attributed to being something more than they can be or are, which is probably why it makes them think someone with it is different from them, above them, better than them or whatever. I think people do the same thing with fame and money and high IQ and charisma and classical physical beauty now that I think about it.
I have met more men who were really insecure...acting as they thought a man with confidence would act and they did not intimidate me either. They were also not the least bit attractive to me and usually irritating and occasionally creepy. Come to think of it I usually go for men who are secure in some areas and not so much in other areas...because that feels natural to me. It's like fifi said an accurate accountability of talent and ability as opposed to an "attitude" they put on in everything they do. Yeah that is totally how I am. I am attracted to men who have an accurate understanding of themselves to a great extent. Not ones who are sure they are the most fantastic ever in all things, or somehow above me and not ones who can't see their good qualities no matter what. Bleh.
I'd totally pick a guy who was a bit lower in confidence than a guy with a bit more but who tried to blow it up into something bigger or wear it like personality bling or some other pretentious crap. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 1:47 PMits funny how confidence can be displayed in ways that seem the opposite of what one would think...
I'm sure most people are familiar with the old saw that men buy big fancy cars as a way to compensate for being poorly endowed.
my SO drives an ancient ratty-assed Sentra, and we just laugh about it--he's got nothing to compensate for
sometimes confidence looks like humility, and insecurity reeks like vanity...
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 9:03 AMWanderingWolf - To me confidence is generally associated with having a realistic knowledge of one's own abilities, qualities and skills. Absolutely no personal insult intended but perhaps a feeling of "supreme" confidence is actually a bit of an over-estimation of oneself which is what leads to misreading signals. I've had my own moments of overconfidence (and arrogance), as I'd suspect most of us have. To me confidence is based on and in self knowledge, it's not a particularly aggressive thing and is often actually pretty laid back because the person has nothing to prove. I agree with the other ladies about there being a fine line between being confident and arrogant. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 9:55 AMConfidence does not intimidate me in the least.
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Fri, June 13, 2008 - 2:30 PMConfidence is required. My personality will run roughshod over those who lack confidence, quite without meaning to.
But, as many have said, there is a very important distinction between confidence and arrogance. Confidence is knowing that you're hot shit in your areas of expertise. Arrogance is thinking you're BETTER than everybody else at pretty much everything. -
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Re: To the contrary
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 4:29 PMyes Confidence is required in a man for me to be interested. What I am looking for is a man who says with his body language, his life, everything " I can handle anything that comes my way" and more specifically " we can handle anything that comes our way". That confidence is a turn on. It means he is taking care of himself so well, he is ready to try taking care of a relationship and family.
Women must be better people in some ways than men. It seems we like men who are confident and healthy and smart. We encourage it. Men sometimes prefer a women who is not as smart or as confident as he is ( Actually women do this too. ) I wrote about that study that showed that men don't date women they find smarter or more ambitious than themselves on average.
It may just be the confident among us who prefer confident partners. Who would want an insecure person unless they were insecure themselves?
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 7:13 PM> "explain why i when i was single, mind you, and when im feeling supremely confident in myself) have misread signals from women in the past, yet when in a relattionship and feeling comfortable with my self i can pick up on it. "
that's not an issue of confidence or of women finding confidence intimidating. that's the classic case of single = on the prowl / offputting / trying too hard, while unavailable = relating more honestly and not being pushy so women are more comfortable in the latter case. many people say that it seems they get many more offers when they're in a relationship then when they're single. And it always seems to come down to the same 2 things:
1) the people being hit on feel an edge of desperation, discomfort, slickness, trying too hard, seeing every person as a target, etc. as expressed above, which turns them off
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2) the person hitting on you feels safer because he/she knows you're not really available, so no risk of real rejection
I'd look at the approach you have when you're single as opposed to your awareness when you're in a relationship. you may find that you're more subtle or open in your interactions when you're off the market. You may also find that you're more willing to actually listen and observe cues when you're not available because you're not distracted by trying to close the sale, so to speak. You may also find that that "confidence" is too aggressive or overbearing without meaning to be. Maybe you're so busy trying to show you're confident or impressive that you're misreading cues or not allowing enough give-and-take in the interactions.
Seems to be the common thing with both sexes, but I hear more men complain about it than women.
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 10:36 PMConfidence can grow by being with the right people. Growth is a process. Sometimes someone who is underconfident just needs to have a bit of encouragement. A confident man does not intimidate me. I often wonder what is the key to confidence with any of us because it is not being boastful of oneself. -
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sat, June 14, 2008 - 2:39 PMthe key to confidence seems like an excellent question.
My first thought is that it is the ability to see yourself and others clearly and objectively and accept what you see.
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 7:17 AMIt depends on how he shows his confidence. Cockiness can be unattractive.
Even a man who is confident in his good looks can seem unattractive to me.
So a balance is good, pride in his work, confidence in his stride, with a touch
of humility is best. I like a man who isn't afraid to approach women and who
knows what he likes/wants. But a man who is comfortable with himself, but
not cocky is very attractive....
Vixxen
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Sun, June 15, 2008 - 11:40 AMI would say it makes me want to intimidate him. Show him how confident a woman can be. I'm pretty competitive.
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Re: Ladies, does a confident man intimidate you?
Thu, June 19, 2008 - 8:07 AMConfident is awesome.....overconfident can be bad.
If a man thinks he's all that and a box of donuts, that other men
don't compare to him in looks etc...then that's arrogant and I find it
pretty unattractive. The hottest men are those handsome ones that
seem fairly unaware of their looks, or at least unaffected by their looks
but still have enough confidence to carry themselves well.