I am realizing the better I feel about myself, the better I take care of myself, the smaller my dating pool gets. I look back at some of the guys I dated, some of the men I loved and I wouldn't go near them now . They weren't taking care of themselves physically, emotionally or mentally, why did I expect them to be able to take care of me?
Now I'm looking around and trying to access, is that a person a risk or a benefit to my self esteem? Will they take good enough care of themselves that they won't be asking me to be nursemaid and mom consistently?
It's also being busy with ME stuff. I used to have all sorts of time for dysfunctional , drama filled " relationships". Now I don't.
I can only imagine where I would be now if I had had this take on dating when I was 18. Oh well you live, you learn.
So when and how did you come to know the self-esteem/self-confidence/ or just self preservation that you could not date someone who can't take care of themselves mentally, emotionally, spiritually? Or is it something that us from dysfunctional backgrounds have to learn and everyone else knows from the get go?
Now I'm looking around and trying to access, is that a person a risk or a benefit to my self esteem? Will they take good enough care of themselves that they won't be asking me to be nursemaid and mom consistently?
It's also being busy with ME stuff. I used to have all sorts of time for dysfunctional , drama filled " relationships". Now I don't.
I can only imagine where I would be now if I had had this take on dating when I was 18. Oh well you live, you learn.
So when and how did you come to know the self-esteem/self-confidence/ or just self preservation that you could not date someone who can't take care of themselves mentally, emotionally, spiritually? Or is it something that us from dysfunctional backgrounds have to learn and everyone else knows from the get go?
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 6:30 PMI think self esteem grows with dating..but it can come after a few hard knocks until you feel much better about who you are..and the bonus with that is, the better YOU feel the better the dates FEEL about themselves and then you're less likely to look around and access risks or benefits..because your soul KNOWS -
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 7:24 PMReading my post was confusing LOL
What I mean is..the better you feel about yourself..the better your dates feel about themselves, because of the Law of Attraction
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:00 PM>>>I think self esteem grows with dating..but it can come after a few hard knocks until you feel much better about who you are<<<
Very true. Sometimes people have to experience certain vices, personality traits, etc before they can consider it a a deal breaker for relationships going forward.
Hopefully there's enough positives in all our relationships that we also learn more of what we DO want as well.
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 8:16 PMHuh, as my self-esteem grows my dating pool gets larger. Men I would have just written off as too good for me or would never have thought would be interested in me are now on my list. -
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 8:46 PMyes that. and also the better I feel about myself the more men are drawn to me. -
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 10:00 PMwell that's a good way to think about it. Good self-esteem opens up a new dating pool. A better one.
But in general I see more people who don't really love themselves than people who do love themselves.
But I'm studying to be a psychologist , so maybe I'm looking for maladies.
If I look for health maybe I'll find that in lots of men too. -
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 12:49 AMOne thing I do know is that every man I end up in a long term relationship with--meaning more than a month--is better than the last one. I know this has something to do with the work I'm doing on myself. It's also a very slight comfort if there's a breakup.
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 1:06 AMI'm studying psychology too, but maybe I'm just open to a broader range of quirks. I like 'em interesting ;D
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 7:17 AM> Good self-esteem opens up a new dating pool. A better one. <
Absolutely.
A happy, self-confident woman who is clear on her wants, needs, and boundaries is not only attractive as hell, she is also bound to very low on relationship drama.
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:31 AMAschleigh - "But I'm studying to be a psychologist , so maybe I'm looking for maladies."
I'm not sure what you mean by "maladies" - do you mean mental illness involving chemical imbalances or your basic neurosis? I'd assume neurosis so I'll proceed under that assumption (please correct me if I'm making asses out of either of us! :-).
Quite possibly you're actively looking for maladies but you're probably just more aware of them than you were before so you see what used to be invisible to you. I've yet to meet anyone who's totally free from neurosis - plenty who claim they are but they're usually hiding more than those of us who aren't ashamed to be human!
It's also relevant to remember that relationships are about the dynamics between the people involved - it's never just the one person who's engaged in the neurotic dance or dysfunctional but the meeting of complimentary neurosis that gets the flames dancing. While I don't buy into the whole wishful thinking, magical aspect of "the law of attraction", certainly we choose relationship dynamics that are familiar or that we feel we deserve (even if we think we deserve better). From my perspective, it actually has less to do with "laws of attraction" and mainly to do with making choices. It's not so much that stupid, dysfunctional guys will stop hitting on us simply because we've increased our self esteem, it's just that we stop finding them as attractive and responding to them if we have healthy self esteem and have resolved the relationship issues we inherited from our families. Also, we're more likely to be open to people that we wouldn't have noticed or responded to before we resolved our own issues because they didn't fit into our "type" or comfortably into our own neurotic pattern.
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Sat, May 3, 2008 - 10:49 AMyes I may be noticing the maladies more than before. In some ways it's good for me in that I will have lots of work . I haven't met a person since starting school that couldn't use an hour or 52 of psycho therapy. I am taking assessment and treatment which is all about the DSM and Diagnosing and I am having trouble with it. I don't want to be a diagnosing psychologist unless absolutely necessary. I have to learn it to get my license though.
And what is sad is the way people just live with it all, the depression, the nuerosis , the addictions without knowing or questioning whether things could be different. No one's free of all these things, it's what makes us us. But it can be dealt with in a manner that leads to more pain or less pain.
When I think of the generations of women who didn't ask for what they need in a relationship ,it's like that. Now we can ask at least.
I think of my grandparents, with an abusive relationship, both ways , alcoholism. And never really being able to imagine a different life. Or having the resources to make it happen. But now we can.
I'm still attracted to the drama, the dysfunction. My soul always knew that there was something better for me. It was getting my head around the idea that took all this time.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:53 PM>It's not so much that stupid, dysfunctional guys will stop hitting on us simply because we've increased our self esteem, it's just that we stop finding them as attractive and responding to them if we have healthy self esteem and have resolved the relationship issues we inherited from our families. Also, we're more likely to be open to people that we wouldn't have noticed or responded to before we resolved our own issues because they didn't fit into our "type" or comfortably into our own neurotic pattern.
Brilliantly said, and goes for women's relationships with other women as well. Ah, I love being 33 and am growning past those things. Now I just have one more crazy person to get out of my life, my roommate's daughter (who doesn't live with us), and I'm home free to ONLY have healthier people enter my life. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 2:00 PMdefinitely it changes the people and the dynamics in all areas of our lives from dating to friends to family and work. -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 3:34 PMLooking back I have dated several addicts, one narcisist ( I think ); all emotionally unavialble4 men.
Probably becuase I was emotionally unavailable too.
Now I am more available to myself. I won't date addicts ( unless they are recovering for a long while) . I won't date men with pesky ex's still in the picture. I won't date men who live at home with thier family.
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:54 AM> I won't date addicts . I won't date men with pesky ex's still in the picture. I won't date men who live at home with their family. <
Good for you Aschleigh, you're learning.
I suggest you add the chronically unemployed to this list.
There's a word for these guys: "Loser".
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 1:00 PMmaybe, but i think there is a circumstantial element to all of this, too. i would pay as much attention to his attitude and outlook as i would circumstances.
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:57 AM>"Good self-esteem opens up a new dating pool. A better one."
I totally agree, too.
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