Alright, so after a sound lashing in another tribe for agreeing with another's post that gray-heads with no friends and no profile info other than a city, state, age and sex sort of get the antenna up, I wanted your thoughts.
After this guy left a question, a couple people gave him good answers and then the weird vollying about his ligitimacy started and he hasn't been back to defend himself at all. Or even say thanks for suggestions. Nada!
Some other people in that tribe got on us because they contend that a newbie would be totally scared off by that kind of thing. I think he needs a thicker skin :) Maybe I do to because I felt attacked just for suggesting he post again, saying it's sort of tribe etiquette to check back on your original posts. Somebody jumped down my throat saying I can't get my feelings hurt just because someone doesn't live up to my expectations of behavior (huh? wha?). My words got all twisted in somebody's head! Maybe Etiquette wasn't the right word. I should have said it's common for people to check back..........
Blah, blah blah!!!!!!!!
I just needed to vent about the weird tribal bs happening to me today.......
And I feel a little like a kid on the playground, running back to their old group after trying to play with some bigger kids "They were mean to me!!!" I don't mean it that way at all............just wondered if you have had problems with bullies on Tribe........ :) People can be so uppity when anonymous!
After this guy left a question, a couple people gave him good answers and then the weird vollying about his ligitimacy started and he hasn't been back to defend himself at all. Or even say thanks for suggestions. Nada!
Some other people in that tribe got on us because they contend that a newbie would be totally scared off by that kind of thing. I think he needs a thicker skin :) Maybe I do to because I felt attacked just for suggesting he post again, saying it's sort of tribe etiquette to check back on your original posts. Somebody jumped down my throat saying I can't get my feelings hurt just because someone doesn't live up to my expectations of behavior (huh? wha?). My words got all twisted in somebody's head! Maybe Etiquette wasn't the right word. I should have said it's common for people to check back..........
Blah, blah blah!!!!!!!!
I just needed to vent about the weird tribal bs happening to me today.......
And I feel a little like a kid on the playground, running back to their old group after trying to play with some bigger kids "They were mean to me!!!" I don't mean it that way at all............just wondered if you have had problems with bullies on Tribe........ :) People can be so uppity when anonymous!
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 2:40 PMi think the entire world is going through some kind of snippy, short-tempered phase right now, and it's playing out on tribe. there have been arguments in several tribes i frequent, and after getting into one, i am absolutely convinced that *no one* can understand why people behave the way they do on tribe.
people are people. i notice it kind of goes through phases here...i've been on tribe for 3 years and it seems like someone is always jumping someone else, for good reasons or bad ones or none at all. don't take it personally is all i can say :-) -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 2:54 PMI have noticed a lot of short-temperedness IRL too.
I'm trying not to take it personal, I just don't get the point of picking on people!
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 5:10 PMOh Jeebus yes. Blarg. I've been repeating "walk away" over and over in my head
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 6:31 PMthe only time i care whether someone has a 'complete' profile or hasn't really added much at all, or whether they've got a decent number of friends or none at all, or how long they've been on tribe or not, or what tribes they are in or whether they're in any at all, or how much posting they've done or not done, or what kind of pics they have or don't have is when they approach me personally in a friend request, a PM or a comment on one of the pictures in my own profile.
other than that i could care less, and i feel if someone posts a valid question or topic that bears discussing then i try to stay on point and discuss it in the open forum that tribe is supposed to be - for everyone, new, old and anywhere in between.
but that's just me...
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Sun, June 1, 2008 - 8:35 PMI've noticed the irritability and overly sensitive trend myself the last little while. Um, in myself as well. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a weird planetary transit happening, even though I'm trying really hard not to believe in that :-)
Yes, I am a little leery of sketchy profiles. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt, but if a stranger with a bag over his head walks into a party in my living room and starts asking questions about my sex life, I'm not gonna answer. So although I do try to be polite and non-judgemental till creepiness is outruled, I'm not sharing personal information with someone I've never seen post on tribe. And yeah, it is only polite to check back to the thread you started, because many times the discussion needs clarification on what was actually meant, or where the original poster was coming from. No need to jump down your throat for politely requesting context.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 11:42 AMwe have definitely argued that in here a bunch of times.
and there does seem to be something cosmic going on.
For me...I think maybe I don't put much faith in the pictures and information in someone's profile alot of times anyway. They seem like they give alot of people a false sense of security. So I go by my feel of what the person says. I have one friend who has no information in his profile and no pictures and I've not met him in person, but the discussions we've had in PM and the feel of sincerity in his questions on this forum have made me feel like I have a sense of him. More than pictures or listing where he lives could.
I am well aware that there are people who read this tribe who never post, people who read this tribe who are not in it. People who have been removed who follow every thread. People like my ex's second wife who claims she reads it with her mother, which I need to not think about because her and her mother reading together about my sexual information is just too surreal and bizarre to think about. People who I have no idea who they are and would never give them the information if they asked me personally. But there it is, right here where they can read it.
I have had to many people tell me how this tribe has been a huge help to them(again not necessarily people who post in here) so if I feel a question is respectful and sincere and/or something that other people might be wondering I'll answer it. I have alot of respect for questions and their power not only for the asker and the answerer.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 1:50 PMo_o Lack of friends would be a silly thing to be picky about. I think I only have 9 or so and I'm thinking of clearing a few out. I don't like to "friend collect," I'm the same way on myspace. Though I personally know a lot more people on myspace than I do on tribe.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 4:42 PMMercury is retro. As a a couple other plants but I can't remember....
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Mon, June 2, 2008 - 5:22 PMpluto is one, but there is another that just went and I can't remember which one it is. -
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Mon, June 2, 2008 - 7:12 PMI'm thinking it's Jupiter.....? -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 6:23 AMok mars will cause conflict especially when it is squaring something, and people will be irritable and over sensitive if they have a Saturn return happening, (this one is happening to me) I have a Saturn return and it going to last about 2 years of me be what my daughter say equals (a psychotic bitch)...lol personally good days and bad.... there is some planetary shift happening though depending on your individual transits...easy to find out about though...
As for the ones with no pics and little info, i get messages from those mostly from some place in africa and they are just soliciting for money, or a way to get into the country...
other than that unless they wan't to join my friends list i don't care....
people have bad days, ignore and walk away is the best thing
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:19 AMI guess I've been lucky. I have yet to meet a Tribe bully. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:45 PMGo to the *Politics* tribe. That's where they all hang out. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:55 PMScratch that - looks like it's gone. The one I was referring to, at least. It looks like it was replaced by another tribe of the same name, but with one member. Lots of posts, though...
Spent about 3 minutes in the original tribe one day, and was witness to enough venom to last a lifetime. I guess for some people, cutting others down is their form of entertainment. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:17 AMYet another reason why I subscribe to the old adage, "Two things I never discuss: religion and politics." Tribe is a wonderful place, so why poison the air with political or religious diatribes that only build up friction and animosity? One's own statements almost never change the other person's point of view, so why fan the flames?
To paraphrase Chris Rock in Dogma, "I think it's better just to have ideas. You can change an idea; changing a belief is trickier. People have died for it [beliefs]; people will kill for it."
I hold fast to my own ideas and let the other person go their own way. In the long run, it's healthier. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 1:07 PMThat's part of how I know who my friends are: I can discuss religion and politics with them. We usually don't agree (I cultivate a diverse group of associates) but we don't start screaming at each-other either. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:28 PMWell, that's cool, too.
Actually, for the last 14 years I've worked with the public on a daily basis, and had to steer clear of talking religion or politics in public. My motto was: "I don't have opinions. They're bad for business." -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 9:44 PMYeah.... I've pretty much sunk my ability to ever run for political office already. I mean, I guess I could go for it just to watch the orgy of mudslinging that would ensue, 'cause that could be kinda funny. I'd never actually get anywhere with it though. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 11:59 PMDon't sell yourself short, if you really do want to run for office. Politicians change their stripes so often I sometimes think that all their suits are actually tailored to resemble a blur!
Start reading lots of H.L. Mencken, and then you won't worry about not having a snow-white reputation. Here's an example of his philosophy:
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner."
- H. L. Mencken
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Thu, June 12, 2008 - 9:38 AMAfter growing up in DC I'm fairly well nauseated at the notion of being a professional politician. I always seem to end up being a local figure, and gods know how but I always seem to end up talking to politicians about one damn thing or another for whatever group decided some fruit like me would be a good representative (people have NO taste) but professionally? I'm WAY to damned honest and see no call to change that. It'd be an interesting show, but it would just be a show. -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 10:30 PMit's become apparent to me that many people bait and switch identities here in order to inflame certain people. once the inflammatory post has been posted, the identity is "unsubscribed" and the poster leaves no trace. the offensive post remains. some call it trolling.
people get the idea that they can say anything they want without repercussion. and they can. so what do I do? Ignore them.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Thu, June 26, 2008 - 11:00 PMCBN, love, I'd have to agree with you that there is some bait-and-switch that happens on other tribes, but I have to say how grateful I am that it doesn't seem to happen here almost at all! My impression is that we're an authentic bunch of people, with real experiences and wisdom to share, and I deeply appreciate that, personally.
I don't have the patience, attention span, intelligence, motivation, myself, to bother having an alt, or to present myself as something other than I'm not. I get bored and tired too quickly. -
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Thu, June 26, 2008 - 11:30 PMso true. the BM tribe gets first prize. No, not Bowel Movement.... =-) -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 12:32 AMOh yeah. I'm very wary of no-face-no-profile. People usually feel freer to be jerks when they don't put themselves out there at all. Of course, this is the internet, & for all you people know, I could be an yak w/ an unusually high IQ & mediocre typing skills.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 6:10 AMYou've come a long way on your typing skills, Firemer-yak! -
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Fri, June 27, 2008 - 7:28 PMThzank Yuu! Tribeee id so educatimal.
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Fri, June 27, 2008 - 9:09 PMAnd I'm a 6'9", 490 lb. man named Ted. For all y'all know, really. O.K., not really. I have to assume I'd give something away fairly quickly, if I weren't who I said I was - you're an astute bunch of people! Not to mention my lover'd be pretty upset, too! ;o)
(*Snorts!*) Firemeryak! Yep, it's hard to get the ol' hooves a typin'! (I loves me a firemermaid!!!) -
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Sat, June 28, 2008 - 9:53 AMAt least a Yak has cloven hooves, which I'm sure are much more adaptable to typing, than say the rounded hooves of Horses, Mules, Donkeys, Zebra, etc
Miss you Sweetie.
Hope we can get together again this summer.
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Re: Tribe Newbies and Tribe Bullies
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 7:41 PM<<Yet another reason why I subscribe to the old adage, "Two things I never discuss: religion and politics.">>
i prefer what Linus said "three things you should never discuss: religion...politics...and the great pumpkin!"
i've seen it a lot too. i've been gone from tribe for a while and when i get back there's bunches of bickerings everywhere i look! it's crazy!
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